Future of Wi-Fi Tools

0:00 in a world of cloud AI automation devops

0:06 I've been wondering do our traditional

0:09 approaches of doing Wireless design and

0:13 Survey where we send an engineer on site

0:16 to take ourf

0:18 measurements is that getting a little

0:21 bit out of date and is there a better

0:24 approach are they any better approaches

0:27 well I'm here at wlpc PR with um yussi

0:31 hey yuss hey Peter nice to see you man

0:34 yeah good to see you too you've got a

0:36 very um strong integration with juniper

0:40 correct and and the M

0:42 dashboard um what what are some the

0:45 benefits then of been able to integrate

0:47 a wireless design survey tool with a

0:51 wireless infrastructure vendor why do I

0:53 want to do that that's a that's a good

Automatic Deployment

0:55 point so so we kind of started with the

0:57 automatic deployment uh and and some

1:00 some others are are starting to follow

1:02 lead as well so but I think the big deal

1:05 comes from like truck rolls cost so much

1:08 money and and I I think like you know

1:11 side survey that's always a truck roll

1:13 automatically these days uh validation

1:16 site surveys I think are really really

1:18 good uh in in many many many locations

1:22 to kind of understand how the network

1:24 looks like from the client perspective

1:26 especially if you have this uh

1:28 non-carpeted space

1:30 where where most of the walls are maybe

1:32 not floor to ceiling but you have you

1:34 know uh warehouses factories things like

1:36 that I would always do a validation

1:38 survey to understand kind of how how it

1:40 looks like from the from the client

1:42 perspective or you have if you have any

1:43 kind of critical environment like

1:45 Hospital you definitely want to make

1:47 sure that the network works fre in

1:49 everywhere but if you look at things

1:50 like Corporate Offices Branch offices uh

1:54 you know these kind of sites for example

1:56 maybe there's some other ways especially

1:59 because the Wi-Fi systems today are so

2:02 smart and we can pull that RF data from

2:06 those Wi-Fi systems back into the Wi-Fi

2:08 design tools maybe there's some ways

2:10 there so we've kind of brought in things

2:12 like uh live Network RF analysis without

2:16 having to go on site uh this for example

2:19 we codeveloped with mist and launched at

2:21 the previous MFD uh but essentially what

2:25 that means is uh all the access points

2:27 are listening to all the other access

2:29 points all the time and then that data

2:32 can be fed it's like a humongous Matrix

2:33 of how every access point here's every

2:35 other access point U the the signal

2:38 strength readings everything we can take

2:40 all of that Matrix and then combine that

2:42 with our kind of propagation engine and

2:43 the 3D stuff whatever we do and then lay

2:46 down fairly accurate heat maps without

2:49 ever having to do a survey so we had a

2:51 customer a few weeks ago for example who

2:54 had like 300 sites some of them more

2:57 complex let's say 50 were more complex

3:00 but the 250 of the sites were actually

3:02 not very complex and they were floor to

3:04 ceiling walls and not too big and not

3:05 too critical so they ended up surveying

3:08 just those 50 sites and do doing our

3:12 what's called our automatic environment

3:14 modeling for the 250 sites so so they

3:17 just remotely once they had set up the

3:19 network remotely they check the heat

3:21 maps and like yeah looks great uh

3:23 there's no question that this will work

3:25 we don't need to send a person on site

3:27 so essentially site surveys

3:29 traditionally are about heat mapping now

3:31 we can construct those heat Maps based

3:34 on how every access point here's every

3:35 other access points brilliant so I

Survey Integration

3:38 wonder could we see some of these

3:40 integration I'm glad you asked and and

3:42 just consequently like like completely

3:45 um you know out of the blue appears a

3:47 laptop that happened to stand here and

3:49 let's take let's take a quick look at

3:51 that so you know the traditional uh

3:54 Network planning um that's here right uh

3:57 you know and and all of the juny APS

4:00 Wi-Fi 6C Wi-Fi 7 whatnot um and kind of

4:04 this we just brought real ESS to the

4:07 network planning but this is this is all

4:08 new so this is actually uh when I moved

4:11 to the survey tab now this is actual

4:14 measured side survey data right yeah so

4:17 that is where we've sent an engineer EXA

4:19 on site they've gone around they've done

4:21 the survey and they've got some measured

4:22 data exactly right so very much our two

4:25 traditional approaches then for doing

4:26 survey yep yep yep and then so so from

4:30 that then we can take that data and what

4:34 we can do is we can export that can we

4:36 into into junip Peres we we can do even

4:40 better so so if I click live uh we

4:43 actually get that kind of kind of like

4:45 similar uh heat map as we saw in the

4:47 survey let's let's take a look at it

4:49 from the from top down and this is now

4:52 the network in its running state right

4:55 now uh actually not when we surveyed it

4:58 not when we sign it it's right now so so

5:02 that is right now right now exactly as

5:05 it's operating right now absolutely

5:07 that's amazing so

5:10 actually if you've got that

5:12 integration um and you you want to do

5:15 what I would classes I normally call

5:17 them an assessment survey y so so a

5:20 customers maybe the requirements might

5:21 have changed from um when the network

5:24 was installed and they actually you to

5:26 go in and maybe go does our Network meet

5:29 our requirements not the requirements of

5:31 when we installed it um that would

5:33 traditionally mean I'm going on site I'm

5:36 walking around I'm taking some out of

5:38 measurements the what you showed is a

5:41 survey data but what you're saying now

5:42 is I

5:43 could have a API connection Absolut to

M Cloud

5:47 the m cloud and I can actually go

5:49 without sending an NG on the site what

5:51 does it actually look like today exactly

5:53 right exactly right and when whenever uh

5:56 I I go to live it's updated so so and

5:59 you can see environment learning model

6:01 updated and that's where uh you know all

6:03 the aps heard all the aps we took that

6:06 data and we calibrated the what's called

6:08 a prediction model and now this because

6:11 it's live I of course cannot move the

6:13 radios CU this live uh status comes from

6:16 the M dashboard so you have your access

6:19 points on the dashboard you have

6:20 everything here this is the source of

6:22 truth right this is what you know where

6:26 you have the most upto-date information

6:29 whenever whenever you do anything and

6:31 and if you want to move the aps if you

6:32 want to add APS things like that you can

6:34 do them either in hamina and then export

6:36 the changes to mist or you can control

6:38 it in Mist but mist is always the source

6:40 of Truth for us this is the same exact

6:43 side but hamina just gives a visual

6:46 layer on top of it so just come back to

Survey

6:49 my original question then there's sort

6:51 of traditional serving design

6:54 methodology where we go on site we take

6:56 our

6:57 measurements is that going

7:01 away are we moving to a point where we

7:04 don't need to do that anymore what your

7:06 what's your Force I don't think it's a

7:08 black and white answer uh I think s

7:10 surveys will always be necessary CU

7:12 that's the only way we can understand

7:14 like client level RF environment it's

7:17 not for after these kind of changes it's

7:20 not necessary maybe for all the

7:23 environments but for critical and you

7:26 know quirky uh not floor to ceiling like

7:28 not carpet space environments I think it

7:31 still very much has its place however

7:34 like you know truck rolls all of that

7:38 like even thought of like doing a survey

7:40 every time you travel shoot I I've

7:42 always found it a bit quirky but now now

7:44 it's you know completely completely

7:47 abely right it is a bit quirky and and

7:49 we're still going to have to survey for

7:51 new deployments aren we there not

7:54 exactly right you're so going to be

7:55 having to go out and take some

7:56 measurements absolutely on site and

7:58 visit the

8:00 yeah yeah

8:03 even measurements just where do I place

8:07 APS you need to be on side sometimes

8:09 absolutely but but I think once a

8:11 Network's deployed I think this is going

8:15 to provide a great benefit to the user

8:18 and I think it's really great to see you

8:21 know it's great to see junip it's great

8:22 to see ham working together to actually

8:24 make all of this possible so

8:25 congratulations to both thank you thank

8:28 you